Hotels in La Maddalena

Great spa, nice swimming pool, beach club location is amazing for sunset. Good breakfast, nice staffs. Would come back again next year!

Great stay at Ma&Ma Very good hotel, really enjoyed our stay here. Booking in was professional and efficient. Pool area and gardens were lovely to sit out in. Room was high standard, we had a small issue with the electricity going off, but the staff sorted this. My only gripe is that although I appreciate two free bottles of water a day, for a hotel doing that to every room is so much wastage...

Friendly staff, great room, lovely breakfast, ideal location for touring around La Maddalena.

There were scented sticks placed everywhere in the hallway. Unfortunately, the smell was quite unpleasant. There was also an unpleasant odor in the room. The wooden hallway floor creaked quite a bit. Breakfast was good.

Very nicely maintained luxury property with ample staff and a great breakfast. The pool area was no slouch either.

Very nice Hotel which is clean, has very Friendly and helpful Personal and also the Restaurants are really good. The internal Restaurant is way too expensive compared to every other Restaurant you will find on the whole island! Thats why we recommend the Pizza Restaurant which is also more authentic. One thing in the Hotel is a Bit Strange. All simple Jobs are done by black people. On the one Hand...

Great location with free private beach. There are also many beautiful beaches near the hotel. The staff are friendly and helpful. It would be more perfect if the package meal booked by the hotel in the evening is more abundant

A great stay in La Maddalena! We stayed for 4 nights in Hotel Cala Lunga and were very happy with all the accommodation has to offer. The location is great, at the north tip of the island, with 3 private beaches within the compounds. The staff was very friendly from the booking onwards and made their best efforts to accommodate our stay with our 11-months old daughter. We had a free upgrade from a...

Great location and great breakfast - really nice hotel with good cleaning and nice staff, however with weak langue skills. The lunch was, unfortunately, a major disappointment with uncooked burgers, fish-tasting fries, child-like prepared chicken salads two days in a row. Two families simply gave up, despite friendly service and convenient location… -> sorry, but our recommendation is to stay away...

We had a very good trip. The hotel room was super nice, large balcony overlooking the magnificent view. Breakfast with a view also really starts the day well. Roberto was a gentleman, thank you for the beautiful stay!

We spent 4 wonderful days at the hotel. The location is unbeatable, an oasis of peace. We have not tried the restaurant for dinner, but breakfast was great (tea pots available for tea lovers, tasty cappuccino and very nice scrumbled eggs) with terrific sea view and great service and attention each morning. The personnel has been all extremely kind, from the receptionist to the cleaning ladies to Roberto...

We loved staying here. Don't be put off by the first impression of the building with is built above the car park and initially not very attractive. The rooms are nice with comfortable beds and we had a terrace with a sea view. Its great to have an outdoor pool and lovely area with a bar. The breakfasts are superb and better than other more expenive hotels we staying in. Lots of fruit and home make...

What a lovely hotel! The reception staff greet you with the most warm and helpful service every time you pass them. They are an excellent and warm face to the hotel. All staff were friendly and professional. Every area in the hotel is spotlessly clean. Beds and bedding are very good quality for a 3 star hotel. There was significant attention to detail in our room. They are clearly well maintained...

It’s a 3 star hotel! The view is sensational, the breakfast wonderful- the cakes are homemade, the eggs fresh and tasty. Very comfy mattresses- slept very well, extra cushions and woolen blankets in the cupboard. The Island La Maddalena is sooo Beautiful and special and best explored by boat.

Very helpful and friendly people at the reception! The breakfast is amazing, room was clean, big, with a nice balcony. The only negative thing is the small aquarium with the turtles, I thing this is torture for the animals. Furniture is old but does functional.

Wonderful stay. Clean, very friendly staff. Great breakfast and only 15-20 minute walk to town.

Very friendly and helpful staff. Spotlessly clean rooms.

Nice title in the bathroom. Good Italian breakfast.

Staff was just perfect! Super nice, professional and always happy to help! Nice breakfast!

Nice place but without good point of view of the beautiful Maddalena landscapes!

Nice, clean hotel and good staff, very small breakfast.

Nice spot in typical Italian style

Warm atmosphere, comfortable hotel with a great breakfast deal in one of the most beautiful archipielagos in the world.

This is where you want to stay in La Maddalena. It is quiet at night and is a very short 5-10 min walk to the downtown. The rooms are clean and comfortable and the staff is very kind and attentive. They provided great recommendations about restaurants and boat tours. The breakfast is amazing with espresso service!

The staff at this hotel were just wonderful. The property is a bit bare bones but has everything you would need for a stay in La Maddalena.

Nice people in the hotel like family

Received a warm welcome at reception on arrival where they shared with us helpful details on navigating the island. Stayed with family (3 rooms between mum and three adult children) and the rooms made for a perfect refuge between long days spent at all the stunning beaches. A short walk to town but distanced from the noise. Our views to sea were beautiful. A great offering at breakfast each morning...

The staff made the stay from five stars! They were so kind and helpful. Not only did they provide us with wonderful dining recommendations but tours and must see spots on the surrounding islands. The facilities are dated, but quiet and conveniently close to the city center.

Perfect place with clear beaches. You will not see other tourists on resort’s beach because the resort is on private island. Delicious Italian food. Amazing people and a lot of animations for whole day. Rooms every day cleaned.

fantastic! a wonderful island with the only hotel on it. resort decent with many attractions for everyone. beautiful beach. very delicious food. The nearest store is on the island next to La Maddalena. You can reach by boat from the hotel or by water taxi. interesting - payment of guests is added on a special payment card assigned to the person at the time of check-in, and the settlement takes place...

I had an amazing time in this hotel. I never ever write reviews but I was so overwhelmed by my experience at this hotel that I had to write one. Daniella, Angelica and the other staff at the hotel are phenomenal and so helpful. Breakfast was great and delicious. I highly recommend this place.

Very beautiful Hotel. Located close to the center with spacious rooms and good food. Friendly staff.

Clean, quit, modern hotel, very close to downtown and to the ferry. Friendly and helpful staff. Very good breakfast.

Nice size room, good continental breakfast, very welcoming and great service. Good value for money. Town centre location with parking.

Very good value for money. Don't expect anything exceptional (with exception of the rock in the middle of the hotel). The rooms are functional and clean. There is a separate bathroom and a balcony on the room. The breakfast was actually good and the cappuccino much better than expected.

Great place to stay in Palau: Excellent location just across from the Marina, with plenty of restaurant choices within short walking distance. The desk staff was absolutely outstanding -- super friendly & accommodating every request.

The location is good, near the pier. We booked a presidential suite, but our three-day experience was terrible. On our first day, the spa tub on the large terrace wouldn't close, making it hum so loudly all night that I couldn't sleep. On our second night, the hotel manually set the temperature to 30 degrees Celsius, making it too cold to use the spa tub. On our third night, the hotel let the water...

Hygiene: Very clean Environment: Very modern and comfortable The service was excellent Facilities: Very good

Very good service! The hotel is really clean and beautiful. The location is really perfect. I definitely recommend this hotel.

Superb hotel. Excellent staff. Fantastic room. Secure underground parking at the hotel. Good restaurants nearby. Will visit again.

The hotel's front desk staff are polite and patient, a bit like the butlers in British TV series, haha. The facilities are good, with showers, hot water, toiletries, and a small refrigerator with various paid drinks. The sheets and bath towels are white and clean. The hotel is very environmentally conscious and encourages continuous use. You can see the sea from the small balcony. The hotel is in...

I stayed in this residence with my family in August. I think the location of the residence is excellent, a few meters from the port and the city center. Convenient parking nearby. Excellent proximity to the beach, with a few steps you are on the beach where there are a few umbrellas and the swimming pool is beautiful! Clean and well arranged apartment. Reception and maintenance staff very helpful and...

A place well taken, nice rooms, kind personnel, beautiful view on the garden and the small beach. At the village beach umbrellas are too close each other, no space to open your arms without touching the neighbourhoods. Animation too much "80' style", even if I'm not a fan of any animation; but the pair of times I went to have a look in the evening, the head of entertainment appeared too much invasive...

I had a great stay at this hotel. The location is very convenient—just a 7-minute walk to the bus station, and there’s a supermarket only a few meters away, which made things really easy. The room was clean, spacious, and included a balcony, which was a nice touch. The shower was also excellent, with good water pressure and temperature control. What really stood out was the staff—they were incredibly...

There is a bus stop nearby, shops, 20 minutes to the beaches, about the same to the port. The rooms are OK, with balconies or an exit to the lawn, on the ground floors. No kettle, which is not very convenient. The city center is close, but not very close, a little tiring in the heat

The hotel is very well located (15 minutes walk from the beach and the city center) It is very easy to park in front. Very quiet area. The staff is very welcoming. The rooms are large, clean and ours had a small balcony with 1 table, 2 chairs and a very practical drying rack for drying towels after the beach. Buffet breakfast very good.

The hotel is very simple and just a few minutes from the center. The parking in front of the hotel is convenient and free. The room is a little small especially with two fairly large suitcases but using it only for sleeping since I spent the days always out is more than fine. Kind and attentive staff.

Nice little city with quite cheap hostels

Welcoming staff and good breakfast.

This place was perfect for us and what we needed. The rooms are spacious, airy, fresh, and clean. Nice balcony. Housekeeping came everyday. Water hot. Has pools. A little beach space next to a forested area. Breakfast included, with eggs. Seems like some tour groups lodge here, and they seem to be enjoying. Simple place with convenient location. Bed is firm, we slept well. Could hear guests next...

We stayed at Club Esse Posada this summer - family of four including two teenagers. We were worried that it would be too quiet but the kids joined in the beach / sea activities, used the pools, played tennis etc so there was enough to do. The rooms are a little tired in their decor, but they are a decent size and have everything you need in them. The staff work very hard to keep them clean. We didn...

capo dorso club esse Palau excellent apartment complex with hotel adjacent close to beach and pool and easy stroll to shops, cafe bars in Palau.

Great place. Particularly if you plan to use ferry.

We spent 2 relaxing weeks. The location was good as well as our room. We really appreciated the maitre Carlo, always kind and available to every guest. We will come back again to Club Esse Posada.

Comfortable kids & pets friendly village .The staff were all very friendly and helpful The hotel is well situated ,where everything is within walking distance . Room was just for our needs and comfortable( nothing of luxury).food was delicious (amazing pizzas).kids club was great, special mention to Alessandra with the beautiful smile on her face receiving our daughter daily , very good animation...

Excellent location, close to the centre. Friendly and helpful staff. Good shower

We enjoyed it. Very kind and helpful people. Arrived after midnight due to a flight delay. Great breakfast. Excellent location: close to the port but not chaotic. Possibility of parking nearby.

Location and service is great. However the bed is uncomfortable and there are mosquitos in the room (they tend to leave the windows on during the day when cleaning). Breakfast is basic but the coffee is good.

The hotel is situated on a quiet street a short walk away from the marina and a small beach. Although the hotel is on a quiet street the hotel itself has very thin walls and doors, so you can hear when someone is coming in (not hard if they are German, they are so disrespectful of anyone else). I asked to be moved to the top floor but was told this was not possible. You can hear when the room next...

Recently opened, Marco the owner is an exquisite person with a great attention for details, super location, 3 mins walking from the harbour, highly recommended!

Old facilities, very basic for a 4* hotel, the most notable thing is the views from the breakfast terrace... the rest is very, very basic.

We stayed 3 notes in Palau. It was an excellent location. We enjoyed a view of the Bay.

Great location when visiting Palau. Easy to walk to the center of town, with access to many restaurants and beautiful views. Ferry to La Maddelena, easy to access. They don't have a restaurant, but offer breakfast at 15 Euros. They also have a little bar where you can order a drink, water or espresso. The only complaint I have is that the Wi-Fi can be spotty.

From the moment we arrived, we were greeted by friendly and attentive staff, who were ready to assist with any needs or requests. The hotel itself is quite charming, with a simple tasteful decor. The room was comfortable, clean, furnished with AC, and with a private balcony that offered an uninterrupted, panoramic view of the archipelago of La Maddalena. Waking up to this scenery and witnessing breathtaking...

Balcony with amazing view of bay and la Maddalena.

My stay in august 2021 was enjoyable. The view, room, cleanliness, and personnel were all excellent. They offered us the best directions and assisted me in planning a surprise birthday celebration. Elia was wonderful with us and upgraded our room with a sea view room and he found the best solutions for all our requirements - many thanks. Breakfast was wonderful, varied, and consistent. I strongly recommend...

The absolute best stay here! The staff was very friendly and welcoming, the room was spotless with amazing views, and the location was perfect to explore Sardinia's beauties. Every morning a delicious breakfast awaits and the whole atmosphere is just so magical. Honestly, you won't ever want to leave — can’t wait to be back!

The absolute best stay here! The staff was very friendly and welcoming, the room was spotless with amazing views, and the location was perfect to explore Sardinia's beauties. Every morning a delicious breakfast awaits and the whole atmosphere is just so magical. Honestly, you won't ever want to leave — can’t wait to be back!

The absolute best stay here! The staff was very friendly and welcoming, the room was spotless with amazing views, and the location was perfect to explore Sardinia's beauties. Every morning a delicious breakfast awaits and the whole atmosphere is just so magical. Honestly, you won't ever want to leave — can’t wait to be back!

Great place to stay in Palau – the staff are super friendly and helpful. It has a beautiful view over La Maddalena Island. Also, it’s very easy to find parking around the hotel. I definitely recommend it if you’re planning to stay in Palau!

Hotel Palau is ok at best but is most definitely not 4 stars. For context we stayed for 5 nights and whilst fine would not recommend staying longer as it would become repetitive whilst there are other places to explore (especially on La Maddalena). POOL/POOL AREA: The pool area is fine albeit the pool water stung our eyes, unnaturally so, both immediately and constantly so ensure you have goggles...

Delightful stay with my family. Charming hotel, cleanliness impeccable at all times. Hotel breakfast one of the best I have had. Service 100%, great attitude, unpretentious, extremely friendly. Higly recommend. Good shuttle service to the port and beach with private area. 15 minute walk to centre and port not a problem even if it was up a hill on the way back. We are in good shape and enjoyed...

Spent 3 lovely days relaxing in the beautiful part of Sardinia. If you enjoy privacy, stunning views, and independence during your holiday, Le Saline is just the place for you. A relaxed walk from an intimate beach and a short drive to the centre of Palau, this location serves you well for peaceful stay on this beautiful island.

Great little house on the hill, awesome location. Would go back tomorrow if I could.

Great location and villas! Very clean, fully equipped with umbrella, sun beds, washing machine, etc. Very nice and helpful staff, also at Mali beach bar. Very nice beach and garden just down the hill. (3 min. walk)

Amazing place, much better than expected, the only thing that flies were too annoying at some point. Nice walk to the beach and very quiet all around. great quality- price.!! highly recommended!!!

Nice holiday houses in good location if you’re traveling by car, a few km away from Palau, each house has its own garden, barbecue area and parking place, there’s about 20 villas overlooking a bay. Appliances are a bit basic (no dishwasher, basic cutlery, tiny kettle with cable so short that we had to boil water on the floor). Safe for families with kids, although no playground nearby. Beach is about...

Great location, comfortable bungalows, great staff. Cleaness 10 out of 10. However not suitable for families with little children. The playground is not maintained and rather dangerous at current state. There were guests complaining about our children whenever they started to play in the swimming pool. We have been requested to reduce the voice of the kids or to leave. The same thing happened on the...

Amazing place for your holidays. Make sure to book in advance to enjoy your home away from home. Relax in style, surrounded by nature, a few steps from the sea!

Appartments that have very strategic position if you want to travel nord Sardinia, situated in Palau where from you can take the ferry to the LaMaddalena islands. Appartments are fully equipped, guests can use the common swimming pool and there is also one restaurant open for breakfast, lunch and dinner. The nearest beach is cca 500 metres from the appartments and sunbeds with umbrella are available...

Area ok. Avoiding accommodation in August ..... price ratio average quality .... 20000 eur / 7 nights. Otherwise everything looks very good. Beach and the facilities of the resort very good.

location meravigliosa, mare stupendo, personale super. ristorante discreto animazione simpaticissima

Il villaggio funziona bene ed è in una splendida posizione

They are the best. The price for such a good quality is just unbeatable. The holiday village is unique, beautiful. Room service, food, staff in general 5*. Little bit improvement in english communication would be nice but it has also big plus, motivation to learn the basics of italian. Grazie mille!

Beautiful place in the middle of nature with a nice beach,delicious food and good hospitality

Beet in class resort and kid support

Charming place, very good accommodation, delicious food, lovely staff

The level of attentive service at Le Dune is fantastic. All the staff is kind and incredibly attentive. We were early to check in and they took our phone number to call us when our room would be ready. The receptionist however must have noticed, that we sat down in the restaurant and came to us and discreetly told us during our very tasty meal, that our room was ready and we could check in whenever...

Great stuff working there. Good atmosphere for holidays

We were visiting the Restaurant with a big group of over 30 people and from the very first minute the waiters were stressed out and not very friendly. We had to wait over half an hour before our Order was taken. If it wasn't for the group we would have left right away. The Pizzas were just okay, but the Mixed grilled Fish plate was a huge dissapointment! The only good thing about the Restaurant is...

The rooms were clean with airconditioning and comfortable beds. In front of the room, there was a little terrace. We could enjoy a cold drink in the evening, while the kids were sleeping. The restaurant has a beautiful view over the bay. It is defenitly recommended to have lunch and/or dinner here. The food is excellent. The staf is helpful in giving suggestions on where to go or what to eat. They...

I dont know where to start...the view is amazing on clear days you even see Corsica. The staff is kind friendly and everyone speaks very good English. The room is clean tidy and the bed is amazing never slept so good. But the best part of all is the restaurant, the fish the wine the pizza i wished we had a restaurant like this in our hometown. I will recommend this hotel to anyone who needs an excellen...

Great value for money. Healthy portions and good food. We stayed across the street and ate here 3 times. Everything on the menu including pizza, pasta and seafood is tasty and well presented. Decor is not perfect but there is a nice outside are with a view

Staff is excellent!! lovely place, amazing breakfast. Just Italy from its best !!!!

The staff is seriously really nice, I come out in the evening hungry and the owner of the small cozy hotel asks me and he has to make pasta for me😋 besides that, the hotel has a pleasant location with a 3-minute walk to the sea and lots of restaurants.

This is an excellent place for friends to stay at. The beds are comfortable, the rooms are cozy AND the staff is very kind. Me and my friends wanted to make pasta but, the man who runs the place offered to make homestyle pasta for us. 5/5 hotel stay in sardinia!

For a beautiful weekend in August we stayed in this pleasant property near the beach. Warmly welcomed by the owners, we were immediately assigned the room, spartan but comfortable. The owners, very kind and very helpful, helped us to discover the nicest corners of the place. A giant thanks to Giovanni and his family.

We had a fantastic stay at this family-run hotel. The beds are comfortabel, the breakfast is great, with a lot of choices! The family who runs the hotel is very kind and willing to help in any way. Would recommend to stay here for surfing or other activities.

This is the perfect place if you want to enjoy Porto Pollo. The rooms are nice and have all the amenities you need most of them have kitchens as well. Close to the beach.

Lovely hotel but remote so definitely an advantage to have a car. Local bus, but infrequent times for getting about. A nice place if you like a quiet, relaxing holiday but very little to do. We were bored. Need transport for nearest shops or bars and restaurants. Some access to rooms steep. Staff are very friendly.

Fabulous place with equally fabulous staff. Rooms a little dated and not quite the quality bed I was after [ Vi Spring clearly not: maybe "my lack of" springs! ] but how long do you want to spend in your room......c'mon? I Vistas incredible and pool.....[never crowded] service 5star. Expensive! Yes, but 15mins from Costa Smeralda so expected.

From the moment we arrived at Myo Stelle Marine in Cannigione, Sardegna, we were greeted with warmth and professionalism. The staff went above and beyond to ensure every aspect of our visit was flawless, making us feel truly valued as guests. The service at this hotel was impeccable. Every interaction was met with genuine hospitality and a commitment to exceeding our expectations. Speaking of cleanliness...

Le service, le calme, la piscine, le bar et la situation de l’hôtel.

Extremely friendly and very helpful staff. And the sunrise over the sea in the mornings is breathtaking. Great live music every evening.

I rated it excellent because it even exceeded expectations: the complex fits perfectly into the surrounding environment consisting of a very green Mediterranean scrub 300 meters from the shore. The rooms are large, functional and equipped with all comforts, from the hairdryer to the minibar and despite a no longer young furniture, kept in absolute order and cleanliness. The welcome at the reception...

If you can, please avoid at all costs, especially if you come with dogs, they are not allowed at the beach. It has been stated in the description that there is a dog beach in walking distance, which is not the case, you have to drive 45 minutes instead. At Porto Tollo for instance dogs are tolerated at the beach even in high season. Not enough, the life guard at the beach was yelling at one of our...

We 10 persons booked at different cabins, hotel room and parking lot for caravan . I have a basic hotel room 20sq meter size with AC, private shower room and daily housekeeping at room 154. i saw some lovely rooms like no. 165,168 with a pretty open square. But ours was at the back side. Good things are quiet corner, heard no noise from the neighbouring music from the camping site or Phil club....

We stayed with our camper for two days and were lucky to get a pitch with a sea view. The entire site was very clean, and the electrical fuses were strong enough to use an electric hotplate — something that hasn’t worked on several other campsites we’ve visited in sardinia. The bathrooms and toilet facilities were always spotless. The on-site restaurant and ice cream parlour were both excellent, and...

We went here to give our trip a last 4 day rest. This was the perfect choice after 1 week of traveling and visiting the hot spots. In pre season the campsite is really quiet and we had a nice easy spot with sea view. We travelled with a camper and tent for 4 persons. Showers and toilets are clean and there’s a good supermarket opened already where you can get all you need. No waiting lines and friendly...

Nice camp site with good service. But there was a lot of construction going on. Also had a bad experience at the boat rental where they tried to blame normal wear of a handrail on us.

Positive things: Location, beatiful beaches, camping area itself, foods were also delicious (when u pay) Negative Things: The cleaners insisted on cleaning our room around 9am every day while we were sleeping. It was really disturbing and they opened our door even though there was a "do not disturb" sign on the door! And moreover, they left our rooms door fully open for around 12 hours. (I hope it...

posizione fantastica, vista ottima … tutto pulito e accogliente!

It was all great. Courteous trained staff present. The well-kept gardens like all the common areas. The perfect apartments complete with everything

Beautiful location with well distributed houses. Noise at night both for the comings and goings of people not very respectful of the peace of others and for the noises coming from the street. In the house where we stayed there was no washing machine and the rooms were quite humid.

Very comfortable room with a beautiful view of the sea yellow room

This is the second time we have spent our holidays in this beautiful sea view apartment and we can't wait to go back. Very neat and clean in a residence in the countryside a stone's throw from the sea and near the most beautiful beaches of the Costa Smeralda. A true corner of paradise. Professionalism and kindness. Highly recommended

We had a beautiful stay at Hotel Mon Repos. There was a great selection at breakfast which was always fresh, lovely attentive staff, extremely comfortable beds and lovely rooms. The hotel had ample parking and was situated in a lovely area right in the centre of Baja Sardinia. If we return we will definitely stay here again!

I gave it a 3 (room) because the room was very dark and the air conditioning wasn't cool enough. The most important thing was the lady at the breakfast area, who was very arrogant and had a bad manner. We were serving coffee when she said, "This is all for local consumption. I just wanted to let you know." Maybe there were people who took food, but that wasn't the case with us, and why would she say...

This is the best hotel I’ve been to recently. Do yourself a favor and choose Mon Repos for your holiday in Sardinia. The resort is beautiful and includes everything you need: great breakfast, lovely swimming pool, equipped rooms and location!! Right on the beach nearby and restaurants. Thank you Sofia and Tania from front desk for the warm welcoming and doing the best you can to help with everything...

The hotel is flawless, they do everything to make you happy. But the highlight is how clean the whole hotel is. God, I haven’t been in a hotel that smells so good all the time everywhere. It was always a pleasure going back to my room and smell that beautiful clean scent. Sleep was a treat. The breakfast was full of varieties, I couldn’t have it all, I wish. The only thing I wish I could get there...

The location in Baja Sardinia is absolutely excellent. From the moment we arrived, the hotel staff were incredibly welcoming and even gave us a tour of the facilities. Our room was spacious and offered a stunning view of the crystal-clear sea. While the pool area was beautiful, we spent most of our time at the beach just a short two-minute walk away. The highlight of our stay was definitely the breakfast...

Hotel Mon Repos is truly a really beautiful Italian property & the staff were so genuinely friendly, helpful and polite. They made our stay there so comfortable and enjoyable, from the kitchen staff, the lovely gardener, friendly hotel reception staff, waiters & the lovely cleaners ❤️ The swimming pool was very clean, small but nice & I could still swim, and not too shallow which I prefer but being...